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	<title>Comments on: Adoptive Parent and Ronald Federici supporter trying to give away 8-year old child online</title>
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	<description>Firsthand accounts of child torture in the guise of fringe therapies and cult pseudoscience</description>
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		<title>By: JAX</title>
		<link>http://stopchildtorture.org/2009/10/22/adoptive-parent-and-ronald-federici-supporter-trying-to-give-away-8-year-old-child-online/comment-page-1/#comment-1353</link>
		<dc:creator>JAX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The woman who writes that blog is a self absorbed twisted mother. She appears to adopt and complain (endlessly) for attention. Has anyone reported her to CPS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The woman who writes that blog is a self absorbed twisted mother. She appears to adopt and complain (endlessly) for attention. Has anyone reported her to CPS?</p>
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		<title>By: update</title>
		<link>http://stopchildtorture.org/2009/10/22/adoptive-parent-and-ronald-federici-supporter-trying-to-give-away-8-year-old-child-online/comment-page-1/#comment-1315</link>
		<dc:creator>update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chask.org seems to be back up today.... new little RAD boy needing a home :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chask.org seems to be back up today&#8230;. new little RAD boy needing a home :(</p>
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		<title>By: update</title>
		<link>http://stopchildtorture.org/2009/10/22/adoptive-parent-and-ronald-federici-supporter-trying-to-give-away-8-year-old-child-online/comment-page-1/#comment-1308</link>
		<dc:creator>update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now as of today chask.org has been pulled down and replaced with some mid-wife shall I say crap...  same state though; huh?

I don&#039;t know; it isn&#039;t like the US state gov. does a great job re-homing kids, placing them in the first place; keep them safe anyway... 

kind of sad to see chask down I guess... kind of thought it was giving some kids from the RAD cult a second chance; maybe not...

I keep hearing that the RAD cult has such a big underground that it does not matter anyway...  they swap kids all the time usually for some type of government money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now as of today chask.org has been pulled down and replaced with some mid-wife shall I say crap&#8230;  same state though; huh?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know; it isn&#8217;t like the US state gov. does a great job re-homing kids, placing them in the first place; keep them safe anyway&#8230; </p>
<p>kind of sad to see chask down I guess&#8230; kind of thought it was giving some kids from the RAD cult a second chance; maybe not&#8230;</p>
<p>I keep hearing that the RAD cult has such a big underground that it does not matter anyway&#8230;  they swap kids all the time usually for some type of government money</p>
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		<title>By: forthelost</title>
		<link>http://stopchildtorture.org/2009/10/22/adoptive-parent-and-ronald-federici-supporter-trying-to-give-away-8-year-old-child-online/comment-page-1/#comment-1305</link>
		<dc:creator>forthelost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He did find a new home. The whole thread has been pulled. Apparently &quot;Awesome Moms&quot; can&#039;t bear any criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He did find a new home. The whole thread has been pulled. Apparently &#8220;Awesome Moms&#8221; can&#8217;t bear any criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: funny</title>
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		<dc:creator>funny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been out of grad school 14 years...  Welch was mentioned as a bad thing not to do...

but today 11/30/09  the little boy is down off the chask.org site... maybe to a new home, maybe DSS got involved...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been out of grad school 14 years&#8230;  Welch was mentioned as a bad thing not to do&#8230;</p>
<p>but today 11/30/09  the little boy is down off the chask.org site&#8230; maybe to a new home, maybe DSS got involved&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adelaide</title>
		<link>http://stopchildtorture.org/2009/10/22/adoptive-parent-and-ronald-federici-supporter-trying-to-give-away-8-year-old-child-online/comment-page-1/#comment-1279</link>
		<dc:creator>Adelaide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merci, Ibyn.

It&#039;s good to have a different perspective here.

Cross-cultural relations are delicate at best. They can be resillent too.

Ostracism is no basis for good law, I believe.

I greatly appreciate your support for independent media. Have just now been studying from a lecture about offence and outrage, and the independence of the public broadcaster. Also about taste and decency.

Forthelost:

Watching the Waters does try to respect the culture of her children. The latest post is about how she does their hair with locs.

Hair is a very good way to nurture your kids, I believe.

Nancy Thomas (Deborah Hage too) had a good way to look after candy sneakers. You put them in your fanny bag (how&#039;s this for cross-cultural understanding!) and they can take as much as they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merci, Ibyn.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to have a different perspective here.</p>
<p>Cross-cultural relations are delicate at best. They can be resillent too.</p>
<p>Ostracism is no basis for good law, I believe.</p>
<p>I greatly appreciate your support for independent media. Have just now been studying from a lecture about offence and outrage, and the independence of the public broadcaster. Also about taste and decency.</p>
<p>Forthelost:</p>
<p>Watching the Waters does try to respect the culture of her children. The latest post is about how she does their hair with locs.</p>
<p>Hair is a very good way to nurture your kids, I believe.</p>
<p>Nancy Thomas (Deborah Hage too) had a good way to look after candy sneakers. You put them in your fanny bag (how&#8217;s this for cross-cultural understanding!) and they can take as much as they want.</p>
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		<title>By: forthelost</title>
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		<dc:creator>forthelost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s officially been given away.

And I&#039;ve just learned from a post of hers that it seems like her kid in the &quot;three feet&quot; program isn&#039;t allowed to pet the dog without permission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s officially been given away.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve just learned from a post of hers that it seems like her kid in the &#8220;three feet&#8221; program isn&#8217;t allowed to pet the dog without permission.</p>
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		<title>By: Mara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ibn Zayd nailed it!  

The poor child has his picture on the net and is labeled &quot;angryboy&quot; by the evil creature that adopted him.  Who&#039;s the victim here?  These self-absorbed AP&#039;s need to GROW UP and quit living in La-La Adoptoland.  The fog is thick and stinky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ibn Zayd nailed it!  </p>
<p>The poor child has his picture on the net and is labeled &#8220;angryboy&#8221; by the evil creature that adopted him.  Who&#8217;s the victim here?  These self-absorbed AP&#8217;s need to GROW UP and quit living in La-La Adoptoland.  The fog is thick and stinky.</p>
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		<title>By: Ibn Zayd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ibn Zayd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is most ironic about the claim of &quot;libel&quot; or &quot;slander&quot; is that in Anglo-Saxon law, the accusation of slander was an accusation of removing someone from their community by virtue of defaming their name. Additional precedent in the law provides for the additional need of &quot;malice&quot; in the case of a public figure. By mediating the sickening and twisted desire to rid herself of her adopted child, the woman involved has made of herself a public figure. That she might cry &quot;slander&quot;, when it is she who, with malicious intent, removed a child from his context, his language, his people, his culture, his place--literally, displacing him from his community--is hypocritical beyond belief. That anyone might express sympathy for her is a sign of a society that has hit bottom in terms of its own solipsism and selfishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is most ironic about the claim of &#8220;libel&#8221; or &#8220;slander&#8221; is that in Anglo-Saxon law, the accusation of slander was an accusation of removing someone from their community by virtue of defaming their name. Additional precedent in the law provides for the additional need of &#8220;malice&#8221; in the case of a public figure. By mediating the sickening and twisted desire to rid herself of her adopted child, the woman involved has made of herself a public figure. That she might cry &#8220;slander&#8221;, when it is she who, with malicious intent, removed a child from his context, his language, his people, his culture, his place&#8211;literally, displacing him from his community&#8211;is hypocritical beyond belief. That anyone might express sympathy for her is a sign of a society that has hit bottom in terms of its own solipsism and selfishness.</p>
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		<title>By: Adelaide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adelaide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny:

From the mention of Welch, I think your graduate school experience would have been twenty years ago?

(Temple Grandin - the animal scientist, especially known for her work with cattle and other farm animals, as well as cats and dogs - mentioned her in the &lt;i&gt;Technical Appendix&lt;/i&gt; of her first book, &lt;i&gt;Emergence Labelled Autistic&lt;/i&gt;[Arena, California: 1986 {1989 edition}]).

Yes, Hassan was also a psychiatrist. An Army psychiatrist. His full name is Nidal Malik Hassan. And isn&#039;t it interesting that he was also born in Arlington, Virginia?

Hassan had been investigated before the shooting.

(Look at the &lt;i&gt;Koranic World View&lt;/i&gt; presentation. It will do a lot for cultural competence).

I don&#039;t know that anybody up here (not in this post) has said anything but the giving up/abandoning of the child is wrong. And not especially in specific terms, either, but as a general principle.

You need surprisingly little time to get after somebody on the Internet, believe me. In five minutes or so, one&#039;s reputation can be ruined. On the other hand, it can take months or years to skerrick out the truth. It also takes patience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny:</p>
<p>From the mention of Welch, I think your graduate school experience would have been twenty years ago?</p>
<p>(Temple Grandin &#8211; the animal scientist, especially known for her work with cattle and other farm animals, as well as cats and dogs &#8211; mentioned her in the <i>Technical Appendix</i> of her first book, <i>Emergence Labelled Autistic</i>[Arena, California: 1986 {1989 edition}]).</p>
<p>Yes, Hassan was also a psychiatrist. An Army psychiatrist. His full name is Nidal Malik Hassan. And isn&#8217;t it interesting that he was also born in Arlington, Virginia?</p>
<p>Hassan had been investigated before the shooting.</p>
<p>(Look at the <i>Koranic World View</i> presentation. It will do a lot for cultural competence).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that anybody up here (not in this post) has said anything but the giving up/abandoning of the child is wrong. And not especially in specific terms, either, but as a general principle.</p>
<p>You need surprisingly little time to get after somebody on the Internet, believe me. In five minutes or so, one&#8217;s reputation can be ruined. On the other hand, it can take months or years to skerrick out the truth. It also takes patience.</p>
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